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Triumph 1700 Skiff Review

 

Fly-Casters and Families Will Like This Skinny-Water Skiff

I back the boat off the trailer, wait for the truck and trailer to get out of my way, then shift the Yamaha F-75 four-stroke into forward and take it up to 2000 rpm. The ramp gets closer, closer, and CRUNCH! The bow grinds against concrete. I shift into reverse, back away, turn, nail the throttle, and BAM! The rubrail slams into the pier. Later I drop a lead weight on the deck, swing a hammer at the hull and whack the console with a wrench. Yet when I load the Triumph 1700 Skiff back onto the trailer, it's in perfect condition. What gives?

This boat is built with Roplene, a proprietary polymer material that can survive the harshest boating torture tests you can come up with. But don't just take my word for it. Go to www.toughboats.com and watch videos of a Triumph get towed down the road without a trailer, dropped from a crane and hit with a sledgehammer.

Base Price $15,333
Price w/ Test Power $18,694
LOA 17' 4"
Beam 8' 6"
Weight
(excluding motor)
1,400 Pounds
Fuel Capacity 12 Gallons Aft
18 Gallons Console
Maximum Horsepower 90
Test Engine Yamaha F-75
Propeller 3-bladed 13 ¾" x 17" aluminum prop

Standard equipment: 12-volt outlet; 500-gph bilge pump; bow and stern grabrails; console grabrail; 4 cleats; flip-back cooler seat; navigation lights; raised bow and aft decks w/ stowage beneath; Yamaha gauges; stainless steel steering wheel; acrylic windshield; tinned-copper wiring; 25-gal. livewell; choice of aft or console fuel tank(s)

This unconventional boat-building material is nothing like fiberglass; Triumphs are actually molded in a 500-degree oven. Polymer beads are fed into the mold, melted and baked, then a computer-controlled system rotates the mold so the Roplene distributes and cools evenly. Next, foam is injected into the voids between the hull and deck, and stringers are filled with polyurethane foam. Since the foam and the Roplene are similar substances – essentially the foam is simply aerated polyurethane – they bond much better than foam and fiberglass do. That means saturation and water migration (problems common to foam-filled fiberglass boats) won't be issues as the boat ages.

Screws used in the 1700 Skiff are serrated, and when being driven, they build enough heat to actually melt the plastic around the threads, ensuring a good bite. This process results in a boat that's nearly indestructible. Added bonus: They're also less expensive than most comparable fiberglass boats. In fact, you can get a fully rigged 1700 Skiff with a 50-horsepower Yamaha outboard and an EZ Loader trailer for $15,330, a solid 25 percent less than most fully rigged center consoles in this size range.

Naturally there are some downsides to this construction technique, the first being that Roplene hulls are slightly heavier than fiberglass ones of the same size. The 1700 Skiff I tested, for example, has a hull weight of 1,400 pounds, compared to 800 pounds for a Carolina Skiff 1780 DLX, 1,050 pounds for a Scout 175 Sportfish, and 1,250 pounds for a Key Largo 168. Though that extra beef helps the 1700 Skiff bull through seas, it also means less efficiency and speed than some of these competitors might provide. Roplene also doesn't have the glossy shine of gelcoat, so these boats don't look as sporty as some others. (Note, however, that it also eliminates the chore of waxing your boat.) Finally, small hatches and parts made of Roplene tend to have more variation and don't always fit as well as molded fiberglass parts, which have much lower tolerances.

SUPER SEA TRIAL

Once I was satisfied I couldn't damage the 1700 Skiff by running into things, I needed to see how the boat handled a chop. The Triumph factory rep claimed the slightly flexible Roplene hull would partially absorb the blows when we hit waves, and after scooting through one-foot seas plus a few two-foot wakes, I think he was right. It's not a huge difference, but the 1700 Skiff definitely comes down softer then you'd expect from a 17-feet, 4-inches-long, 8 feet-wide boat with a mere seven degrees of transom deadrise. Not only is the bottom relatively flat, but also the entry isn't sharp. In fact, this boat carries its beam all the way forward to a blunt, rounded bow. Though these factors normally lower a boat's ability to handle a head sea without thumping and bumping, the impact absorption more or less makes up for it.

The lack of a sharp entry also has two distinct advantages. First, it boosts the 1700 Skiff's usable space. The forward casting deck is the size of those found on boats several feet longer, and the stowage area beneath it is larger than you'd expect to find on a boat of this size. Second, that bow greatly increases forward buoyancy, allowing Triumph to crown the deck and make this boat self-bailing. As anyone owning a self-bailing boat less than 20 feet can tell you, deck elevation over the waterline is usually so minimal that when people stand in the stern, water runs in from the scuppers and wets their feet. No such problem on the 1700 Skiff. In fact, we had three full-grown men onboard, and even with all of us aft of the helm, water didn't run in. The Triumph rep onboard noted that this boat has so much flotation in it that during testing, they were unable to intentionally sink one. Even with 1,800 pounds on deck, the rated capacity of the 1700 Skiff, the scuppers still remained above the waterline. Think that'll raise the center of gravity too much, making it tender? Nope – don't forget, the bottom only has seven degrees of V in it.

Yet another bonus of that relatively flat bottom and the large amount of planning surface: The boat planes incredibly quickly and easily. At 12 mph, the hull rises up and breaks over the hump. This means that on rough, snotty days, you'll have good slow-speed planing abilities; no need to either crawl along at idle or batter yourself at high speed to get home. The hull also shows strong efficiency both on and off plane. Trolling in this boat will be incredibly economical, since it burns just seven-tenths of a gallon per hour at 4.5 mph. Running at a 4500-rpm cruise, the 1700 Skiff hit 25.6 mph, according to the GPS. (This was with the F-75 Yamaha spinning a 13 ¾ inches x 17 inches aluminum prop; going to stainless steel should boost speed by 2 or 3 mph.) At this speed, the outboard sips just 4.5 gph, which means the boat gets about 5.8 mpg. At wide-open throttle (5900 rpm), we touched a top end of 36.5 mph, and the Yahama was consuming 7.5 gph. The resulting 4.8 mpg is great economy, even if the top-end speed is not impressive by today's standards. Still, this rig's no slouch. But bear these numbers in mind if you're considering the "standard" 50-hp powerplant, because you won't ever see 30 mph with it.

SMART SPACE UTILIZATION

Triumph's designers made great use of space in the 1700 Skiff, particularly in the aft deck. Some aft decks eat into the cockpit and make small center consoles feel cramped, but Triumph kept it svelte enough to allow pass-through room between the swing-back cooler seat and the raised decking. On the other hand, that also means it's only large enough for a single angler to stand on and cast from an elevated position. The front and back of the deck have openings that provide access to the small bilge, the bilge pump, and the battery. A 25-gallon livewell is also housed in the deck; to either side, you can have stowage or twin fuel tanks that carry a total of 13.2 gallons. Opt for stowage, and fuel gets housed in an 18-gallon tank that takes up the interior of the console. Request the aft fuel tanks, and the console has a stowage compartment inside.

Speaking of the console, one of its shortcomings is a lack of space for mounting electronics; you'll be hard-pressed to find room for more than a fishfinder and a chartplotter with four-inch-diagonal screens. Flush mounting is essentially out of the question. Of course, these problems are common to all boats this small. The console does have some pluses, however. There's a seat up front and a sturdy grabrail ringing the windshield. Due to the Roplene construction method, the console is molded in one piece that includes a bottom, instead of being open on the bottom and bolted to the deck. That means it'll always be dry inside, since water running down the deck can't migrate into a seam.


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More wise planning lies forward, where two access hatches, both hinged at the bottom, are on the foredeck. That makes its easy to stow and retrieve gear – no fighting to hold the hatches up while reaching inside. But it also means the hinges are vulnerable if your 250-pound brother-in-law Bubba steps on an open hatch by mistake.

KEEPING IT SIMPLE

Since this is such a small, utilitarian boat, there are few options, and going from the showroom floor to the boat ramp is a simple transition. A bimini top ($400), a foredeck seat ($340), side rails ($253), a swim platform and ladder ($400) and a trolling motor plug ($143) are the only add-ons you'll have to consider. Well, not the only ones – read the small print, and you'll note that rigging is also considered an option. Unless you plan to mount and run cables for the Yamaha all by your lonesome, that'll add $459 to the boat's base cost. Hrumph.

Customizing options include rail-mounted rod holders (as is usually true on boats this small, since the gunwales aren't wide enough for flush-mounts), vertical rod racks on either side of the console, a raw-water washdown (split off the livewell seacock) and additional aft seating. Parents and kids who are into watersports will have to be happy with the pair of tow-eyes on either side of the transom, because there's no reinforced area for mounting a tow pylon.

But bay and river anglers will be quite satisfied with the 1700 Skiff. The two elevated casting platforms, great rough-water performance and large (for this size boat) livewell mean light-tackle or fly casters, jiggers and live-baiters get what they need. Considering that the hull draws a mere six inches, add shallow-water coastal, flats, and back-country anglers to the list. Snorkelers and divers will also be interested, since the roomy cockpit and foredeck stowage area provide plenty of places to put dive tanks, BCs, and other gear. And the 1700 Skiff will also make a great family boat for folks who like to do all of the above plus tow a toy or water skier from time to time.

But the number-one reason people will buy this boat is the construction material. You have wild teenage kids? No big deal, you can give them the keys without worrying about it. Your buddy wants to take a try at docking? Sure, no problem – he can't hurt the darn thing. You want to haul rocks by the ton? Beach the boat and drag it up the shore? Leave it tied up in a slip that's dry at low tide? Fine, okay, and go right ahead. Just remember to tilt the outboard up before you try towing this boat down the highway without a trailer.

Lenny Rudow was senior technical editor for Boating magazine for more than 10 years, and is currently the electronics editor for Marlin and GoBoating magazines.

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Boat Sales | Market Sales

2007 2006 2005 2004 2003
Outboard Boats
Total Units Sold 188,700 204,200 213,300 216,600 207,100
Retail Value 3,358,540,400 3,215,742,200 3,200,861,700 2,867,571,600 2,742,825,960
Average Unit Cost 17,798 15,748 15,006 13,239 13,244
Outboard Engines
Total Units Sold 275,500 301,700 312,000 315,300 305,400
Retail Value 2,554,533,600 3,255,410,900 3,154,904,900 2,879,002,858 2,554,533,600
Average Unit Cost 9,761 10,790 10,112 9,131 8,365
Boat Trailers
Total Units Sold 130,600 130,900 134,100 133,400 130,600
Retail Value 232,088,000 295,874,800 247,548,600 228,037,400 202,012,100
Average Unit Cost 1,839 2,260 1,846 1,709 1,547
Inboard Boats-Ski/Wakeboard Boats
Total Units Sold 12,000 13,100 12,600 11,600 11,100
Retail Value 566,804,600 568,357,200 507,742,200 435,377,200 403,285,200
Average Unit Cost 47,234 43,386 40,297 37,533 36,332
Inboard Boats-Cruisers
Total Units Sold 6,200 6,900 7,800 8,600 8,100
Retail Value 2,888,122,600 3,069,614,900 3,118,557,000 3,334,830,600 3,019,923,000
Average Unit Cost 465,826 444,872 399,815 387,771 372,830
Sterndrive Boats
Total Units Sold 60,400 67,700 72,300 71,100 69,200
Retail Value 2,671,928,300 2,724,065,700 2,573,331,420 2,368,085,700 2,221,115,600
Average Unit Cost 44,237 40,237 35,592 33,306 32,097
Canoes
Total Units Sold 99,600 99,900 77,200 93,900 86,700
Retail Value 55,078,800 58,461,900 48,404,400 56,809,500 49,679,100
Average Unit Cost 553 585 627 605 573
Kayaks
Total Units Sold 346,600 393,400 349,400 337,300 324,000
Retail Value 184,044,600 195,645,000 167,013,200 159,542,900 150,984,000
Average Unit Cost 531 497 478 473 466
Inflatables
Total Units Sold 29,400 25,100 30,100 31,600 30,500
Retail Value 117,961,200 48,229,600 57,551,200 64,685,200 67,435,500
Average Unit Cost 4,012 1,921 1,912 2,047 2,211
Personal Water Craft
Total Units Sold 79,900 82,200 80,200 79,500 80,600
Retail Value 793,460,800 792,079,200 761,531,000 733,454,700 716,501,800
Average Unit Cost 9,931 9,636 9,495 9,226 8,890
Jet Boats
Total Units Sold 6,800 6,200 6,700 5,600 5,600
Retail Value 188,928,300 151,549,100 168,223,600 130,368,000 115,268,200
Average Unit Cost 27,784 24,443 25,108 23,280 20,584
Houseboats
Total Units Sold 420 530 450 550
Retail Value 197,439,100 415,473,200 324,094,500 N/A
Average Unit Cost 470,093 783,912 720,209 N/A
Sailboats
Total Units Sold 11,800 12,900 14,400 14,300 15,000
Retail Value 716,350,100 652,186,900 646,928,417 603,381,900 539,744,700
Average Unit Cost 60,708 50,557 44,926 42,195 35,983
2002 2001 2000 1999 1998 1997
Outboard Boats
Total Units Sold 212,000 217,800 241,200 230,200 213,700 200,000
Retail Value 2,280,908,000 2,195,859,600 2,306,577,000 1,984,328,300 1,596,412,200 1,421,400,000
Average Unit Cost 11,495 10,144 9,188 8,620 7,470 7,107
Outboard Engines
Total Units Sold 302,100 299,100 348,700 331,900 314,000 302,000
Retail Value 2,478,838,900 2,411,045,100 2,901,881,400 2,602,096,000 2,155,610,000 2,006,186,000
Average Unit Cost 8,205 8,061 8,322 7,840 6,865 6,643
Boat Trailers
Total Units Sold 141,200 135,900 158,500 168,000 174,000 181,000
Retail Value 200,645,200 181,698,300 184,494,000 190,008,000 189,660,000 190,050,000
Average Unit Cost 1,421 1,337 1,164 1,131 1,090 1,050
Inboard Boats-Ski/Wakeboard Boats
Total Units Sold 10,500 11,100 13,600 12,100 10,900 6,100
Retail Value 398,811,000 352,569,300 366,438,400 308,429,000 253,348,700 136,408,200
Average Unit Cost 37,982 31,763 26,944 25,490 23,243 22,362
Inboard Boats-Cruisers
Total Units Sold 11,800 10,800 10,300 7,000 6,700 6,300
Retail Value 4,336,559,000 3,758,475,600 2,925,756,200 1,799,420,000 1,704,245,500 1,669,103,100
Average Unit Cost 367,505 348,007 284,054 257,060 254,365 264,937
Sterndrive Boats
Total Units Sold 69,300 72,000 78,400 79,600 77,700 78,800
Retail Value 2,192,231,300 2,217,723,000 2,244,908,400 2,059,394,900 1,854,013,600 1,771,360,300
Average Unit Cost 31,634 30,802 28,634 25,872 23,861 22,479
Canoes
Total Units Sold 100,000 105,800 111,800 121,000 107,800 103,600
Retail Value 56,900,000 57,449,400 64,508,600 67,034,000 64,033,200 61,124,000
Average Unit Cost 569 543 577 554 594 590
Kayaks
Total Units Sold 340,300 357,100 N/A N/A N/A N/A
Retail Value 157,558,900 176,764,500 N/A N/A N/A N/A
Average Unit Cost 463 495 N/A N/A N/A N/A
Inflatables
Total Units Sold - N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
Retail Value - N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
Average Unit Cost - N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A
Personal Water Craft
Total Units Sold 79,300 80,900 92,000 106,000 130,000 176,000
Retail Value 697,681,400 641,456,100 720,176,000 771,044,000 868,530,000 1,135,904,000
Average Unit Cost 8,798 7,929 7,828 7,274 6,681 6,454
Jet Boats
Total Units Sold 5,100 6,200 7,000 7,800 10,100 11,700
Retail Value 107,997,600 118,692,800 123,641,000 132,678,000 167,033,800 144,389,700
Average Unit Cost 21,176 19,144 17,663 17,010 16,538 12,341
Houseboats
Total Units Sold
Retail Value
Average Unit Cost
Sailboats
Total Units Sold 15,800 18,600 22,500 18,850 14,500 10,500
Retail Value 567,782,400 638,640,300 760,622,900 N/A N/A N/A
Average Unit Cost 35,936 34,336 33,805 N/A N/A N/A
 
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